Thursday, November 2, 2017

Will "Phantom" replace wax for recreational skis?

In the news this week is a Kickstarter campaign for a product that is intended to be a  "one time only" treatment for skis and snowboards to provide improved glide.

The product is called Phantom, and it is backed by DPS ski company (they make high end backcountry touring and alpine skis).

If you read their info closely and you'll see that this is not intended to be superior in performance to race waxes, but is advertised primarily as an eco-friendly product that will only have to be used one time.    They claim that it continues working even through several stone grinds.

Here's a link to their Kickstarter.     And here's a link to a podcast interview with the developer from Blister Gear Review.

Now, I have not tried this stuff, and I have a few questions about it.
  1. Will it work on extruded base skis (i.e. cheap skis without sintered bases).
  2. Will it really fully permeate an old ski base?     (will it even really permeate a NEW ski base?)
  3. Will this product seal the ski base?   Or will you be able to effectively wax the ski (if you choose) after using the Phantom treatment?
  4. Will skiers drink fewer beers if they don't have to wax their training skis?

This new product isn't going to keep you out of the wax room on race days, but maybe it will get a bunch of recreational skiers out on snow more often.

Stone Grinding Schedule

You've been training this to get the most from your skiing, so make sure your skis aren't a limiter.

Prepare all of your skis to run their best with a fresh grind and hotbox service. At Nordic Ultratune, a grind batch starts every Thursday and those skis are ready for shipping on the following Monday -- just 4 days later.

Return shipping is by FedEx.  So, typically skis that are shipped out on Monday will typically arrive back to you on Thursday.

Here's the upcoming service schedule at Nordic Ultratune. Use these dates to make sure you get your skis ready before your most important races.
  • Skis in by Nov 2nd will ship out on Nov 6th.
  • Skis in by Nov 9th will ship back out on Nov 13th
  • Skis in by Nov 16th will ship back out on Nov 20h
  • Skis in by Nov 22nd will ship back out on Nov 27th (Thanksgiving week)
  • Skis in by Nov 30th will ship back out on Dec 4th.
Shop hours:

  • The shop is open from 11-5 Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon each week.   Closed on Tues/Wed.

    • If you're in the Methow Valley, stop in and say Hi!  You can check out the selection of Madshus, Atomic and Rossignol skis and boots, and extensive supply of wax for glide or grip.

      It's time for getting your skis ready for the season!

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